Posts by Eusebius Hieronymus

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WTS lied about Joseph Priestley and Blood

by hawkaw in

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some of you may have already made a post about this but i have decided to post the following anyway.. the booklet - how can blood save your life?

part 2 - bloodvital for life.

Why Mainstreaming Will Win Part Two

by metatron in

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i have no quarrel with anyone who wishes to hope for the.

society's 'reform', i just want to draw attention to the .

real cause of change by distinguishing reform from mainstreaming.. when someone says 'reform', i think of brave reformers who.

Eusebius Hieronymus

I'm taking the liberty of taking a quotation from the Blood/Lies/Priestley thread and posting it here. Speaks to the above eloquently.

Misleading quotations are terribly dishonest. Even more dishonest is an organization refusing to openly discuss and answer for its own teachings. Time and time again the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society has simply brushed off those within its own company who have asked to have legitimate and sincere questions answered about its blood policy.

For example, suppose two children of Jehovah’s Witnesses are in need of blood components in order to live. One needs platelets and the other needs albumin. If both sets of parents conscientiously accept the respective blood components only the two parents who allowed platelets would face congregational shunning. The Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society has been asked why this is and upon what scriptural basis such a distinction could possibly be supported. Answer:

[deafening silence!]

Oh, they will make a reply all right. They will say a lot of words all right. But no [b]answer for the dilemma! They just keep spouting, "Our position has remained consistent" as if that is true and as if that really answers the honest question asked.

I know personally several sincere Jehovah’s Witnesses who have tried to get the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society to answer honest and legitimate questions on this subject, to no avail. It is the height of dishonesty to assert "The Bible is our guide" on one hand yet refuse to give a solid scriptural answer for an imposed teaching on the other hand.

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WTS lied about Joseph Priestley and Blood

by hawkaw in

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some of you may have already made a post about this but i have decided to post the following anyway.. the booklet - how can blood save your life?

part 2 - bloodvital for life.

Eusebius Hieronymus

Up!!!

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Sci-Fi Fans Only: A.I.

by Maximus in

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i hear tell there are some aficionados out there.. as a young man i secretly loved ray bradbury, isaac asimov, l. sprague decamp, poul anderson, arthur c. clarke and others.

loved brian aldiss' "super-toys last all summer.".

when the movie "2001: a space odyssey" premiered, i sneaked into a theater all by myself, and was blown away.

Eusebius Hieronymus

http://www.donu-tech.com/alert.html

http://www.donu-tech.com/

Please don't tell sKally.

We are not out there. We are HERE!

Jerry, President
Donu-Tech

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Freedom of Thought and JW Opposers

by dunsscot in

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does freedom of thought really obtain in this forum?

are those who have left god's organization and jehovah god himself actually now more open-minded and unbiased?

if those who espouse atheistic thoughts or those who believe every vile utterance spoken against jehovah's people think they are now speaking from some olympian perspective, i beg to differ.

Eusebius Hieronymus

A couple of simple questions?

What would the learned theologian Rudolf Bultmann have said about a belief system that allows innocent children to bleed to death, literally, to show a symbolic "respect for the sanctity of life"?

Does the upper-echelon Witness code of silence for perpetrators of pedophilia show evidence that "human thought itself is contradictory in nature as it ascends toward the ultimate pinnacle of cognition?" My sense of humanity transcends philosophical acceptance of such repugnant behavior.

What would Descartes think about an organization that says "Don't think, we'll tell you what to think"?

You conclude JWs are not wrong in such a religious outlook?

Ignore such fundamental truths at your own peril. JWs are certain NOT in the same epistemological boat as the groups you mention, who simply do not exhibit the same rigid, inflexible high-control behaviors.

Jerome
"I doubt, therefore I am"

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The CO's visit

by OrangeBlossom in

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this past week was the visit of our circuit overseer.

i know what you are thinking so before i post some of his comments that i personally found interesting, i only went to keep peace in the family and not give rise to suspicion about my true feelings.

so with that said, here are some things that grabbed my attention.. 1) his talk thursday nite was about being successful and how the world's view of success is far different than the organizations.

Eusebius Hieronymus

How'd you like to be a thinking CO and have to peddle that drivel, outlines given to them to be followed carefully by "the Society," now the Christian Congregation, Legal/Service? Originating with the "faithful slave," of course.

Elders, check the letterhead on your invitations to KM School and on policy letters that used to come from "the Society."

They are going to lose even more than the 23,000 men who have been part of the elder exodus over the last three years. Whoever said the organization is going to become a "flat earth" society has got it about right.

Jerry

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Nourishment for the Spirit

by Maximus in

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my observation is that persons who 1) heal/adjust the most rapidly from their jw experience and 2) seem to have the most joy in life are those who read, read, read, in pursuit of what i call nourishment for the spirit.

i've really enjoy the pithy aphorisms you use here, which suggests you've distilled some wisdom from somewhere.

i'm going to ask your help in this thread.

Eusebius Hieronymus

Marilyn, the full title of the book is
"The Dancing Wu Li Masters: An Overview of the New Physics"

Not about channeling. Metatron in a post above says it caused him to think about pantheism. For those who are mystified by the title:

At an Esalen Institute meeting in 1976, tai chi master Al Huang said that the Chinese word for physics is Wu Li, "patterns of organic energy." Gary Zukav and the others present developed the idea of physics as the dance of the Wu Li Masters--the teachers of physical essence. Zukav explains the concept further:

The Wu Li Master dances with his student. The Wu Li Master does not teach, but the student learns. The Wu Li Master always begins at the center, the heart of the matter .... This book deals not with knowledge, which is always past tense anyway, but with imagination, which is physics come alive, which is Wu Li .... Most people believe that physicists are explaining the world. Some physicists even believe that, but the Wu Li Masters know that they are only dancing with it.

The "new physics" of Zukav's 1979 book comprises quantum theory, particle physics, and relativity. Even as these theories age they haven't percolated all that far into the collective consciousness; they're too far removed from mundane human experience not to need introduction.

It was an early introduction (that I did not pay enough attention to then) to the most profound and mind-altering insights of 20th-century science.

Didn't want to see anyone turned off this exceptional book recommended by several above because of thinking it is linked to channeling. (Hate the old "you said, quote ... weird ... unbelievable," so I'll do it this way. Not to have a precise memory for old book titles is more than understandable.)

Best,
Jerry
Who appreciates the Wu Li masters now in his life

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District Assembly Experience on Volunteering

by AlanF in

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i seem to recall that on this summer's district assemblies there is an experience given about a woman who was involved in various voluntary community services, but quit them and became a pioneer.

does anyone remember this?

if so, can anyone provide more solid documentation?.

Eusebius Hieronymus

This was a "canned" experience used universally, as are all such, and will be picked up by anyone who has or is yet to attend. Same story, identically re-enacted or told, to seem more interesting than mere reading. Might be interesting to tape record --

-- and compare with the recent Awake! magazine commending volunteerism! Bet the lady is shocked when she reads this one! Ah, but the Society can trot out that article when approaching certain governments.

Waiting to read your expose on the hypocrisy of it all.

Jerry

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Nourishment for the Spirit

by Maximus in

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my observation is that persons who 1) heal/adjust the most rapidly from their jw experience and 2) seem to have the most joy in life are those who read, read, read, in pursuit of what i call nourishment for the spirit.

i've really enjoy the pithy aphorisms you use here, which suggests you've distilled some wisdom from somewhere.

i'm going to ask your help in this thread.

Eusebius Hieronymus

Waiting, I got the poem from Maximus, who said it is by "Brini."

My way of support to everyone here, especially hurting newcomers, and to him while he is going through a rough patch just now.

Want to get the titles right, but don't have access to them just now. Thanks for your kindness when I first got on the board, waiting. An oasis in the jungle, survival of the fittest and all that.

Mrs. Ozzie, your post was positively profound. The pericope from John is one of my favorite passages of the Bible. Yancey is great, would that I could read all of his many books. A reminder I need to go back and read him with new eyes.

I know this is the reason for the thread, to expose many to what really fine, uplifting thoughts are available in great abundance--on a wide variety of subjects, including science, which is not mutually exclusive to faith.

I am greatly impressed not just by the first-rate heads here, but the equally capacious hearts.

Jerry

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Nourishment for the Spirit

by Maximus in

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friends

my observation is that persons who 1) heal/adjust the most rapidly from their jw experience and 2) seem to have the most joy in life are those who read, read, read, in pursuit of what i call nourishment for the spirit.

i've really enjoy the pithy aphorisms you use here, which suggests you've distilled some wisdom from somewhere.

i'm going to ask your help in this thread.

Eusebius Hieronymus

May You always Feel loved,

May you find serenity and tranquility
in a world you may not always
understand.

May the pain you have known
and the conflict you have experienced
give you the strength to walk through life
facing each new situation
with optimism and courage.

Always know that there are those
whose love and understanding will always
be there, even when you feel most alone.

May you discover enough goodness in others
to believe in a world of peace.
May a kind word, a reassuring touch,
a warm smile be yours every day of your life,
and may you give these gifts as well as receive them.

Remember the sunshine when the storm seems unending.
Teach love to those who know hate, and let that love
embrace you as you go into the world.

May the teaching of those you admire
become part of you, so that you may
call upon them.

Remember, those whose lives you have touched
and who have touched yours are always a part of you,
even if the encounters were less than
you would have wished.

May you not become too concerned
with material matters, but instead place
immeasurable value on the goodness in your heart.

Find time in each day to see the beauty
and love in the world around you.

Realize that each person has limitless abilities,
but each of us is
different in our own way.

What you may feel you lack in one regard
may be more than compensated for
in another.

What you feel you lack in the present
may become one of your strengths in
the future.

May you see your future
as one filled with promise and possibility.

Learn to view everything
as a worthwhile experience.

May you find enough inner strength
to determine your own worth by yourself,
and not be dependent on another's judgements
of your accomplishments.

May you always feel loved.

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